Camino del Norte – Stage 26. Navia to Figueras. Last day in Asturias.

John on the coastal trail in Tapia de Casariego

Today we headed back to the coast. I read there were some great coastal variants near Tapia de Casariego and we decided to check them out. We literally had to walk across newly tilled farmland (on a path) to reach the coastal trails. They were really beautiful and we were the only two walking on them for most of the day.

Heading out to the coastal trails
One of many deserted beaches we have come accross
pit stop for cafe con leche with a view. The man sitting next to us was walking with his daughter. He has done 24 Iron Man races including one at the arctic circle in Norway. They are from Manchester UK.

We finally reached Figueras, and our albergue for the night. Patricia from Germany was the only other pilgrim at the albergue. Most others were staying in Ribadeo, across the river. After checking in and doing our laundry I went out to check out the town. It is a small village built around a large ship building company. It is directly across the river from Ribadeo. I miscalculated and thought Ribadeo was another 14 kilometers away. John’s leg pain was ok when he was walking, but it was not really improving. We decided to take advantage of my miscalculation and made a plan to revise our trip with a rest day in Ribadeo tomorrow and then shorter stages going forward. We had a nice dinner with Patrica then headed to sleep.

Figueras

Camino del Norte – Stage 25. Barcia to Navia. 24 kilometers.

Luarca

As we were getting ready to leave the next morning, we realized we must have left Johns jacket at the restaurant. It was Sunday morning and they were not opening till 11:00 am. I told the woman who owns the Pensión what had happened via Google translate and she picked up her phone and immediately sent a text message to the restaurant owner. This is what it is like in these small towns. The small business owners all know each other. The restaurant owner said they didn’t have it but also since we were sitting outside, it was probably still there. They remembered where we were sitting as we were the only non locals there last night. We walked back over to the restaurant (750 meters out of our way) and didn’t see it. As we were leaving I looked under the table and found it. I was quite relieved as I realized it must have fallen out of out backpack when I was getting my jacket out. We were also quite grateful that the Pensión owner went out of her way to call to inquire about our jacket and quickly forgave her for all the noise the kids were making the night before.

Heading out
Snails everywhere

After walking 3 kilometers we came to the river city of Luarca. We past several Indiano houses on our way into to town. We hoped to stop for coffee but every cafe was full of patrons and had long lines. We decided to keep going, happy that we had iced tea and nuts with us.

Luarca is an interesting town. As you approach the town you are on a hill looking down. We walked down streets, ramps and stairs into the town and then back up steep streets ramps and stairs after passing through town. The house and apartments were all built into the steep hillsides.

Luarca
Luarca
Looking down into town
Lucarca from the other side of the river

We headed back into the countryside, passing multiple farms and small towns and going up and down hills.

Camino sign from bottle caps
Another old cemetary
A8 highway we have followed for past month
On someone’s stone wall

About 6 kilometers from Navia , our destination, we met a couple from Belgium. They had decided to leave the Camino and walk along the N 634 road for the last 6 k into town as was a bit shorter than the farm roads the Camino followed. We were pretty exhausted and decided to do the same. They were a bit ahead of us and kept switching sides of the road every 15 minutes or so. We did not know why they were doing this as we prefer to face traffic but thought it was safer to be on the same side. The cars travel about 50 mph on that road. We later founded out they were switching sides to give her blisters a break. In retrospect it was not a good decision to stay on the road as the pavement was very difficult on my feet. Also it just wasn’t the same Camino walking experience. While the Camino often goes on back roads it tries to avoid the busier roads with faster speed limits. Needless to say we were exhausted by the time we made it to our Pensión and took a well deserved rest after our 25 k walk. We didn’t even bother to do laundry. After resting, we headed out to check out the town and get dinner. We found a place that was serving food at 7:00 pm and were happy to see our friend Hank from Belgium there eating. We joined him for supper and more good conversation before heading back to our Pensión and sleep.

Our room for the night – Hotel Casona Naviega
Exhausted!

Camino del Norte – Stage 24. El Pito to Barcia.

I woke up and took a quick walk down the street to check out the view in the morning light. It was still amazing.

Heading out of town

Today our destination is Barcia and most of our walk is on farm roads with rolling hills. We will end up back near the coast. John left our Pensión with Hank, our new friend from Belgium, while I stopped at the store to buy bread, ham and cheese for out lunch. It didn’t look like we would pass many services today. I also bought a small bag of olives, a bag of walnuts and fruit. These have become staples of ours to snack on as we walk. It took longer than e pected at the store and I didn’t catch up with John and Hank for over an hour. I enjoyed my solitary walk but was happy to catch up with them for some conversation. . We finally reached Barcia, where we had a reservation at an agriturismo and said goodbye to Hank who was heading to the next town. We were sorry to leave him as we enjoyed talking with him. We checked in and thankfully, the owner offered to let us use her washing machine. We showered and washed most of our clothes and hung them on the line next to hers. The closeline was under a roof which was good as it started to rain soon after I hung them on the line.

Hank from Belgium and John checking out church
Gate and wall to old cemetery
Norwegian friend and Hank from Belgium

Our room at Casa Rural La Fonte
Casa Rural La Fonte

The village was very small and there was only one restaurant in town that did not serve food until 8:00 so we headed out for a walk to find the beach and the train station. The FEVE train stops here once a day but does not look like it is used very much. It is located at least a kilometer from town. There was a nice coastal walk that ran along the beach.

Atlantic Ocean
Barcia Train Station. One passenger train a day Not. Very busy…
Walking around before dinner

At 7:30 we headed to the restaurant, hoping they would let us order food a little earlier than 8:00. We had walked over 20 miles and were hungry and tired. But the bartender told us the kitchen did not open till 8:00 pm. There were several tables of men playing cards in the restaurant and several women sitting outside. We were the only non local people. At 8:00, the owner’s wife came in and promptly waited on us and then cooked our meal. She was very nice and recommended the regional specialty, Cachopo. This is a dish made with two large veal fillets, breaded and fried, and stuffed with ham and cheese. Of course it is served with French fries and some pimentos. We ordered one and split it but still were unable to finish. It was very good but a lot of meat. After our late dinner we headed back to our room and tried to fall asleep. Unfortunately, the owners large extended family was staying in the horreo (house on stilts) that was converted into lodging and their kids were yelling and running up and down the stairs right outside our window well after midnight.

Cachopo

Despite the noise till late at night, it was a great day once again on the coast of northern Spain 😊.

Camino del Norte. Stage 23. El Pito to Cadavedo.

261 more kilometers to Santiago

We woke up and decided to take a slight detour off the Camino to visit the fishing town of Cudillero. It was about 1 kilometer straight down hill to the sea from where we were staying. I thightbI had read we could follow a scenic coastal trail back to the Camino Norte but I must have read about a different town. The walk down to town was worth it. Cudillero is a town built right into the hillside with the ocean on the other side. Unfortunately, the only way back to the Camino without backtracking was a 2 kilometer hike up hill on a winding road. Needless to say John wasn’t happy about this – I wasn’t either. But it is was still worth visiting Cudillero.

Walking into Cudillero
The buildings literally are built in a curve
Harbor in Cudillero

After the long hike out of town we headed inland for a couple hours. We decided to take a bus 8 kilometers to shorten our walk. We consulted Google and found there was a bus coming in the next hour to Soto de Luina. We made it to the town in time to get a bite to eat and figure out where the bus stop was.

We found the bus stop and found it was no longer in use. Alsa is the big bus line in Spain and their busses are clean, large with Wi-Fi and usually on schedule. Since they built the highways, the Alsa buses now do not go into the smaller towns but instead stop at the rotaries at the exit. There is no actual bus stop, the bus gets off and directly gets back in the highway. In this case, the exit was 2 kilometers up a steep hill. There is no sign or shelter. We asked a woman out walking her dog and we thought she said to just stand at the rotary on the exit. We hiked up the 2 k and found the exit and just prayed the bus would show up. Luckily it did. 😊. We got off at our planned village but again the bus stopped on the highway and it was 2 k to the village and another k to our pension. We had to wonder if this time taking the bus to save some kilometers was worth it.

Heading up to the bus stop
View of town from out hike up to the bus stop with the highway where we had to catch the bus.
Hotel Asturias Regal, our pension (agriturismo) for the night
Across the street from pension

We got to our pension and after a quick shower I headed out to see what was around. . I had seen some people walking down the road. I looked at the map and saw the ocean was nearby. When I got to the end of the road I saw the most amazing views. I was standing on a cliff and below were beautiful beaches – one with some surfers but the others were deserted. It was quite amazing. We headed down to the bar for supper and saw Hank from Belgium. We had talked with him a few days ago. We invited him to join us and ended the day with great conversation. This is what the Camino is about – finding beautiful unexpected places and meeting friendly interesting people. I love it !

Beautiful views 400 meters from Pensión

Camino del Norte – Stage 21. Aviles to El Pito. Happy to be back on the Norte.

Padron peppers – my new favorite food!

We took the train back to the coast from Oviedo and explored Aviles before heading back out on the Camino the next morning. Aviles is a port city and an industrial town with an old city center. We didn’t see too many other pilgrims there. The best thing about our time in Aviles is that I found a new pair of hiking socks. 😊. They are my new favorite socks. The guy that sold me the socks grew up near the monastery we plan to visit and told me we would would really enjoy our time there.

Plaza de Espana El Parche – City Hall
Inglesia de San Nicholas de Bari (built in 13th century)
Palacio de Balsera – now home to the Julian Orbon Music Conservatory
Iglesia de Santo Tomas de Cantorbery
Beautiful street. The street cleaners are out early morning in alll the Spanish cities we visited

We decide to take a bus to the coast to shave off 5 kilometers from our 30k walk ahead of us today. We went to the bus station but no one was there. We soon found out it was a holiday today in Spain – it was Labor Day in Spain. The usual bus was not running. Our two Italian friends, Sylvia and Eugenio, who we met several nights ago walked by and we wished them Buen Camino. They were walking all the way and we decided to walk too, despite John’s hip pain. However, as we left the station, we saw 2 taxis sitting in front of us waiting for passengers so we decided we would take a taxi the 5 kilometers to the coast. It was a good decision. We had a 25k hike ahead of us – more up and down hills, but the weather was beautiful and we were looking forward to our walk. Labor Day in Spain is a day when many small towns have festivals and gatherings. We never knew what we would find as we arrived in a new town. Sometimes it was outdoor music or carnival rides. We saw pop up shops, lots of food and everywhere families were together enjoying the day. We arrived at our pension, rested a bit and headed out to dinner at the local sidereal. We got there just as the kitchen opened band soon the place was full. We wee the only non locals in the place. Everyone in town was having a great time and it was nice to see the families all together for the holiday.

Playa de Salinas
John made a friend who finally speaks his language
Hungry after 20 k walk with 5 k more to go
Church of Jesus of Nazerine, El Pico
Our pension
We are growing fond of “chop salad”. This one included tuna caught and processed in the town we were staying in.
We were the only non locals at the restaurant. Everyone was celebrating Spain’s Labor Day
A little more siderea to end a great day.

Oviedo Rest Day and Change of Plans

Our original plan was to walk Camino Del Norte for 3 weeks and then in Oviedo switch to Camino Primitivo for the last 2 weeks. The Camino Primitivo has several long stretches with limited services. It also has a long stretch with a lot of elevation gain and no services. John has been having some issues with his hip and leg since we left Maine and it hasn’t really improved, so we made the decision to stay on the Camino Norte till Santiago as it seems to have a little more in terms of transportation if needed. We can return to do the Camino Primativo another time 😊. Also, we were enjoying our walk along the coast. There is also a cool monastery on the Norte we had heard about and wanted to check out. Since we had a nonrefundable reservation in Oviedo and we heard it was a really nice city, we decided to go for the night. We took a bus there from Villaviciosa and a train back to Avilés to resume our trek on the Norte.

Heading out of Villaviciosa to the bus station
Oviedo
Basilica of Saint John the Baptist – Franco was married here
Camposagagrado Palace

Ovieda is a beautiful city – classy is how one native described it to us. It was very clean and organized with beautiful parks and tons of statues. Our pension, Pensión Oviedo, was right across from the train station on the end of the main Street heading toward the center of town and the cathedral. It was perfect for our needs. Oviedo is home to several pre Romanesque churches including the Camara Santa which is part of the Cathedral and home to many religious relics including the Holy Shroud, the cloth believed to be the one that covered the face of Jesus after his crucifixion. The Cathedral of San Salvador is also really old. It was founded in 781 AD. It is a large complex which includes a museum of religious artifacts dating back to the 8th century. Admission to the cathedral complex is 8 euros but because we were pilgrims and had our credential with all our stamps since we started in early April, we only had to pay 4 Euros. The tour thru the cathedral was really interesting and well with the admission.

Cathedral San Salvador
Cathedral San Salvador
Jarden de los Reyes Caudillos at cathedral
Cloister and Church of Santa Maria de la Corte
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Original courtyard of University of Orvieto 1608

Once we finished with the religious relics we decided to change things up a bit so we headed over to Calle Gascony, home to the famous cideries (sidrelia) and restaurants serving traditional Asturias foods. It is a fun place to people watch and also to watch the waiters pour cider from 4 feet above the glass without looking. The ciders are delicious and of course we stopped for a bottle and some traditional foods for dinner. We also talked with some women from Oviedo and a man and his son who were starting the Camino Primativo the next day. He heard us talking (and I’m sure recognized us as pilgrims from our hiking clothing) and asked us if they needed sleeping bags in the albergues. We talked for quite a while and I explained to them how they could get their credentials at the cathedral and to be sure they got a stamp from each place they stayed. I was happy to be able to give them information 😊. We saw them later that evening and they had picked up their credential and already had their first stamp. It is pretty easy to recognize pilgrims walking the Camino as we are always wearing hiking clothes, and at night are usually limping from blisters and sore feet and wearing sandals – usually with socks. 😀

Pouring cider to aerate it correctly

Veal escalope con Cabrales (similar to blue cheese but much stronger taste)
Me in my souvenir socks and sandals. They were all I could find at the store after leaving my Darn Tough socks drying on the window sill at our pensioner last week.

Camino del Norte – Stage 19. El Espasa to Villaviciosa. 24 kilometers. (It was a long day – more hills, Iberian Peninsula power outage, and apple cider)

371 kilometers left to walk to Santiago de Compostela.

Walking near Colunga

After a tasty breakfast of toast drizzled with olive oil and crushed tomatoes (a Spanish favorite) we headed out toward Villaviviosa, our destination, 24 kilometers away. It was a warm, sunny day, and a day of constant up and down hills as we passed through numerous small towns. We met Barb from Australia who was in her early 70s and hiking alone with a big pack. She had hiked the first part of the Camino Norte many years ago with her husband and had returned to finish it. She said her husband has hip and knee issues and a list of chores to do at home while she is away. When we caught up with her a second time, after stopping for coffee, we were walking up a steep hill and she was counting 35 steps and then taking a break. She was doing the Camino her way and thst is the beauty of the Camino de Santiago spirit. We all walk for our own reasons and in our own style. There is no judgement or correct way or speed to walk. She had o time constraints and was doing what worked for her.

Heading out in the morning
Friends from Czech Republic
Mamma and her calf
Mom and her little one
San Pedro de Pernus.
Countryside around Villaviciosa. Lots of apple trees

While walking; we crossed paths with a young couple from Seattle and walked with them for a while. We had the usual conversation about politics but this time we were both coming to the conversation with an American perspective It was a day without a lot of services or shops. At one point an hour or two before our destination there was a sign for a vending machine ahead. We were quite excited for a cold ice tea to help us go snort 5 kilometers. We had the correct change but the machine wasn’t working. We tried numerous times as it looked like it had been recently stocked. We also checked and it was plugged in but no luck. We trudged on and, as we walked into the small city of Villaviciosa with another pilgrim from London, we noticed that none of the stores were open and they should have been as it was past siesta time. We found our hotel and the woman at reception told us we could just go to our rooms without checking in because there was no power anywhere in Spain and they were unsure of when it would be restored. We dropped our stuff off in the room and I went out to see what I could learn about the situation. I was told all kinds of things like it was a terrorist attack and the power could be out for days but no one really had any credible information. There was no Wi-Fi and for most people no cellular service. Of course no one had access to the radio. It made us realize how dependent much of the world is on the internet. I ran into Paul from the Netherlands who didn’t know what was going on and Gretchen from Germany who we met a few days earlier. She was talking with another pilgrim about a supermarket on the outskirts of town that had a generator and was open. I got directions and headed there to pick up something for supper and lunch for the next day just in case power wasn’t restored. I returned with 2 premade salads,Brad, cheese and ham for the next day and several iced teas in case we couldn’t get coffee in the morning. We had been walking past apple trees all day and I had read ciders were a big industry here. Gretchen encouraged

Our hotel for the night, Casa Espana

We had been walking past apple trees all day and I had read ciders were a big industry here. Gretchen encouraged me to be bottle of cider at the store as well. Under the direction of the woman working at reception at the hotel, we learned that the cider had to be pored from at least 4 feet above the glass so it gets oxygen and that it is only poured an ounce at a time and you have to drink it all down quickly. She of coyotes wouldn’t let us pour it in the hotel cafe as half of it gets soiled on floor. We went out side to park bench and even though you were not supposed to pour it or drink it on the street, no one cared as they were all dealing with the power outage. Luckily at around 8:30, power was restored and crisis averted. I am still unsure of the cause. Portugal was blaming Spain and Spain was blaming France. Others blamed it on extreme temp fluctuations in Spain. I’m sure some even blamed it on the Trump Administration. I wouldnt be surprised As we headed off to sleep it dawned on us that the power outage was reason for the vending machine not working and somehow that made us feel better. 😊

John practicing his cider pouring skills

Camino del Norte -Stage 18. Ribadesella to El Espasa.

393 kilometers more to walk to Santiago de Compestella

We left Ribadesella by way of the Santa Marina Beach promenade . We knew we were going to leave early and no stores or cafes would be open until 9:00 am, especially on a Sunday, so we bought yogurt the night before and left them just outside the window to stay cold. There are no screens in most windows in Spain and the window ledges are a great place to keep food cold overnight if we don’t have access to a refrigerator. So far we have had no problem with bugs or insects flying in. We also bought a loaf of bread, cheese and ham for lunch as well as a couple bottles of iced tea for the morning to drink on the way in case we didn’t find an open cafe with coffee for a while. We were in luck, however as a cafe was getting their pastry delivery and even though they were not officially open he was able to make us a cafe con leche “take away” and we were able to sip on our coffee while walking on the promenade. .

Heading out of Ribadesella with out takeaway coffees 😊😡

We walked for a couple hours thru forest and pastures, and saw dozens of horreos, which are little buildings on stilts designed to store grain and vegetables to protect them from rodents and moisture. They are very common in this part of Spain. Soon we could see the ocean in the distance and the cute town of Vega de Ribadesella.

A classic herreo

As we started walking toward the ocean we saw a sign in front of an old stone building with beautiful roses that read, “ welcome peregrinos (pilgrims). Coffee and breakfast available. Donativo.” We were ready for another coffee and went inside. There we found a young couple – Madeline from France and Alfonso from Italy. They had a thermos of coffee and milk and a couple of cakes. The building used to be an alburgue but was currently closed. Madeline was the caretaker and was offering refreshments for pilgrims as a way to earn money to fix up the building. Apparently Alfonso was in Spain for work and he met Madeline and decided to stay for a while ❤️. They said they served a lot of pilgrims the day before but not too many that day. We left energized by our unexpected cup of coffee. As we left a group of pilgrims stopped to read the sign uncertain if they should stop. I encouraged them to stop and they did. Alfonso thanked me for the advertising.

Artwork on a house in Vega Ribadesella
La Vega Beach
So many snails but this one was especially cool looking
All roads lead to Santiago…
Picnic Lunch
Albergue Duece
Delicious Lentil Soup with new friends from Czech Republic and Italy

We made it to our alburgue by 2:00 pm. We only walked 15 k today. The alburgue was spotless and run by a woman our age who has walked several Casinos and does not speak a word of English. Once again Google translate came in handy. She ran a tight ship but was very nice. She washed the clothes we wore that day and we had a delicious supper of unlimited homemade lentil soup, rice, salad wine and dessert. It was all donativo. We were there with 3 young people from Czech Republic and they appreciated the unlimited soup. There were also two Italians, Silvio and Eugenio who appreciated the wine. We had a great conversation at supper – mostly about US politics of course. The bunks were very comfortable with room between each. The albergue was not full which was also nice as it is still early in the season and it was a kilometer off the Camino up a big hill (I didn’t realize that when I booked it) but it was a great place to stay.

Camino del Norte – Stage 17. Llames to Ribadesella.

409 kilometersrill we reach Santiago de Compestella (more than half-way there).

We left Llames via the coastal variant, a walk that went on a cliff side path along the coast. The weather was beautiful as were the views. We just couldn’t get enough of the sea, the rocks, the lush green landscape and of course, the cows. We met a young Italian couple who were walking the Camino in sandals as they heard it was better for their feet. We were happy with our Hoka trail runners, especially me as I frequently trip and am sure I’d stub my toes more than usual in sandals.

Leaving our Pensión, the Hotel Peurto Rico
The coastal route out of Llames
Just loving the cows and the scenic views they have on a daily basis.
I still can’t get over how the mothers watch out for their calves

We walked along the cliffs as far as Poo where we stopped for coffee and a tortilla. We then continued inland a bit – still with glimpses of the sea thru Celerio, Barrio and Naves. We walked again thru pastures near the coast where we stopped to ear our lunch. At one point we lost the train and a man saw us from the distance and called out to us in Spanish “Camino Santiago while pointing us the the right direction. This actually happened to us several times. The locals are very happy to show us the way. Our destination was Ribadesella which was a total of 30 plus kilometers. This is pushing it for us so we decided to shave off a few kilometers and caught a train near the end of the day. We met a mother and her son from San Diego at the train station who had the same thought as us.

Iglesia de Nuestra Senora de los Delores, Barro

we arrived in Ribadesella and headed for our Pensión. It was quite unique. It was a group of tiny homes or individual rooms built into the hill in the old town. Very cool. We did our usual Landry and showers (and nap for one of us) and headed out to check out the town. It was split y a river with a mountain backdrop and very pretty. There were lots of shops, bakeries and traditional Austrian food. It wad several beautiful promanades along the water and a large besufptuful beach the promanade on the beach was lined with brpeautiful “Indians” style homes. I’m sure it gets quite busy in the summer. After checking out the town we headed for dinner and had our first “chop salad” and I had the traditional Fabada, a bean stew with sausage. We struggle with the menus here. Google translate often translates the items in away that has no meaning to us. But “chop” salad and potata con tres salsas we understand. The 3 sauces with potato usually includ cabreles cheese cause, spicy tomato sauce and mayo with garlic. Of course John always asks for ketchup. 😊

We made it to our Pension Aribiata, a collection of tiny homes in the old city.
Our room
View from pension
Orange tree behind our room
Playa Santa Marina
Ribadesella waterfront
Inglesia de Santa Maria Magdalena
Fabada Stew
Pork dish

Camino del Norte- Stage 16 Pendueles to Llanes. John and Donna walking thru Asturias.

After a great breakfast at the alburgue we headed out for Llanes – only about 15 k away so we will have a shorter walk today. Llames is on the coast and is a town where many Spaniards vacation. The first part of our walk was thru pastures and some forest and we again had ocean views from time to time. Through out the morning, we crossed paths from hikers the night before and even some from the days before.

Breakfast with new friends from Spain, Rome and Atgentina
Heading out
Mamma and her calf kissing
Always find the sea again
Our younger friends always leave later but catch up with us quickly
Walking with new friend from London
And Argentina – we both like to talk
Indiamo home
We made it to Llanes
Hotel Peurto Rico, our Pensión for the nightn

when we made it to Llanes we had lunch while waiting to check in and then John went to rest while I checked out the town. I was on a mission to find another pair of socks. I had left a pair of socks drying on a chair a couple days ago and was having a hard time making do with just two pair. My feet sweat a lot and I like to change socks half-way thru the hike. It helps prevent blisters. My Darn Tough socks are great but take a long time to dry when washing by hand. The stores all close from 2:00 to 4:30 in Spain for siesta. Unfortunately the only socks I could find were Camino souvenir socks which are very thin but better than nothing so I bought a pair.

Walking around Llames

We met up with George from Czech Republic for dinner and conversation about classic rock and roll. George isn’t his real name but we couldn’t pronounce his name so he told us to go with George. He is our age and has seen a lot of change in the Czech Republic over the years. Of course we don’t speak Czech and he speaks only limited English but it was a great conversation nonetheless. On the Camino Norte. There are many people who speak no English. This was not the case on the Camino Frances which I walked about 5 years ago. We also have only met a handful of Americans on this trip it is nice to talk to people who have different cultural experiences and perspectives of the world and Americans. It shows that we really are all have a lot in common.

John and “George” discussing classic rock and roll – George saw Rolling Stones twice in Czech Republic back in the day of Czechoslovakia.